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Mark Poster "Cyberdemocracy"

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Mark Poster "Cyberdemocracy"

 

 

Group members

 

  • Ann-Kathrin Blaser
  • Marc Müller
  • Alexander Beck

 

Ok, we finished our groupwork and you can find the results below:

 

 

 

 

The stakes of the Question:

 

Encryption:

 

  • USA secure the Internet from terrorists, thus the terrorists can’t abuse it
  • “What is secure for the nation-state is taken to mean true security for everyone” (p.202)

 

Commodification:

 

  •  The Internet is used for commercial uses
  • “The Internet is being understood as an extension of or substitution for existing institutions” (p.202)
     
     
     
  • Politics on the Internet and the hence resulting new social functions and “new types of participation” (p.202) require new theoretical approaches
  • Internet offers democratic possibilities according to Laclau: “new positions of speech, empowering previously excluded groups and enabling new aspects of social life to become part of the political process” (p. 204)

 

Decentralized Technology:

  •  The Internet is a decentralized communication system because it is a “network of networks” (p.204)
  • “The Internet is more like a social space than a thing” (p. 205)

 

The Internet as a Public Sphere?

  •  Public Spheres “serve as organizing centers for political discussion and action”; compared to historical institutions, public spheres would be the angora or the town hall
  • John Hartley: Media are the public sphere
  • “The age of the public sphere as face-to-face talk is clearly over” (p.209)

 

 

A Postmodern Technology?

 

  • Internet as a mere extension of existing technologies
  • Unlike reading a novel or watching TV, communication through the Internet has more to do with self-positioning in the topic
  • Internet as “active” speech (responding to others); is not limited by gender or ethnic race like face-to-face talk

 

Gender and Virtual Communities

  • Women are underrepresented
  • The case “Alex/Joan”
  • Break with gender roles in the Internet
  • “New relation to one’s body” --> Cyborg experience?
  • New hierarchies (e.g. admin) determined by typing skills and eloquence not by gender or social status

 

Cyborg Politics

 

  • Influence on face-to-face relations through Internet relations?
  • Political authority, built-up by the aura of a politician, is difficult to sustain in the Internet thus a political speech on the internet isn’t as persuasive as a spoken one

 

 

Critique:

  • His intention/opinion isn’t obvious to the reader
  • The train of thoughts is hard to follow, sometimes not understandable at all
  • Sometimes his statements, e.g. 30 million people using the internet, are outdated

 

 

 

Questions:

 

1. “But the dangers to the population are and have always been far greater from this state apparatus than from so-called terrorists.” (p.202)

What reasons does Poster give to back this statement up?

2. In what ways does the Internet help to produce “new types of participation in government” (p. 202)?

3. Poster (1997): “The Internet is often accused of elitism” (p. 204).

What are the differences between the Internet ten years ago and the Internet today? Is the text outdated?

4. What is a “Public Sphere”? Is the Internet a public sphere?

5. Why is the “age of the public sphere as face-to-face talk” (p. 209) clearly over according to Poster?

6. Poster: “What are the conditions of democratic speech in the mode of information? What kind of ‘subject’ speaks or writes or communicates in these conditions?” (p. 209)

7. How is the “construction of identity” on the Internet described by Poster?

 

 

Comments (4)

Conny said

at 4:46 pm on Dec 12, 2007

Our feedback:

First of all, we liked that you stated all aspects which Poster mentions.
Besides, your text has a clear structure: the fact that you adopted the headlines makes it easy to follow the structure and find the corresponding passages within the original text.
Furthermore, your questions were helpful in order to get the main ideas of the Poster text as they covered –>the development of the internet and the participation within it (difference between former times and nowadays)
->definition of “public sphere”
->the notion of the construction of identity.

We would have appreciated if you had given a little less quotes (especially in the first part of your summary). It’d have been great to paraphrase some more ideas , describing them in your own words but we admit that this is very difficult as the original text itself is quite difficult. But this is just some minor criticism. All in all, you did a good job summarizing the text.

With regard to your critique of the Poster text, we’d like to add that Poster is asking too many questions (sometimes whole paragraphs full of them) which is rather confusing.

(comment by Marion, Kim, Conny)

admin said

at 1:15 pm on Dec 13, 2007

I would like to agree with above listed Comment. I personally liked the structure and that the summary isn't longer than the text itself;-) What really helped me to understand the text were the passages in which the author derives his ideas from the ancient Greek "polis". Maybe it would have been helpful for readers of your summary if you had derived it also from this reference point. (Since the text wasn't that easy I think one needs your summary) So thank you for presenting it in a clear and structured way.

admin said

at 1:16 pm on Dec 13, 2007

Oh, Sorry. I forgot to sign my Comment. The above Comment is written by Kim.

marion said

at 7:33 pm on Dec 17, 2007

Here is our second part of the feedback, the answer to one question that the moderation group asked.

What is a “Public Sphere”? Is the Internet a public sphere?

A public sphere is a public place where people meet for interacting with others. It is a place where our meanings are articulated, distributed and negotiated. It contrasts with the private sphere.
Jürgen Habermas defines it as "the network for communicating information and points of view". He relates to public buildings/institutions like pubs, where many people meet and communicate. But only the people who were personally there could communicate. The term "public sphere" has changed in the modern world. It can be also related to the internet, there is a lot of communication and opinion exchange between people who are not at the same place, but sitting at home in front of their computers. Relating to the definition given by Habermas, the internet is a public sphere.

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